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          | What 
            people say about the Southern shores and plans for its development
 
 Feedback Unit, Government Consultation 
            Portal
 What are your views on the setting up of 
            a casino in Singapore?
 
 A selection of responses that mentioned the reefs and wildlife 
            of the Southern shores
 23 Mar and earlier | 24-26 
            Mar | 27-30 Mar | 31 
            Mar-8 Apr | 9-12 
            Apr | 15-16 Apr  | The 
            full thread
 
 
 RE: 
            A Casino in Singapore?
 Mikhail 15/04/2004 07:44:45PM
 
 No, i don't think that in building a casino in S'pore is right. This 
            is island belongs to all of us and its heritage should be destroyed 
            by building a casino here. That is my view on this subject.
 For 
            us to admire
 Lin M.S 15/04/2004 08:59:26PM
 
 Just my two cents worth.
 
 I cannot claim to be an expert at the diversity of wildlife in our 
            Southern islands, however, just one visit to Pulau Hantu last year 
            took my breath away. I could not stop talking about what I saw there, 
            and my friends who heard what I told them wished they had the chance 
            to come along to see with their own eyes.
 
 Along came plans to build a casino on Sentosa, as well as future plans 
            to put our Southern islands to profitable use. Judging from the statistics 
            supplied by various sources, there is not a doubt just how much monetary 
            benefits can be profited from this vice.
 
 Many people who have paid attention to this controversy must have 
            developed a certain degree of interest in the Southern islands, and 
            we ask, what is it about these places which invokes such an outcry 
            from our people? Are ecologists and conservationists just protesting 
            for the sake of it, do they not weigh the pros and cons of casino 
            versus wildlife?
 
 Or is there a genuine cause for conservation which will benefit our 
            descendents for years to come?
 
 Let me raise a few things I saw on P.Hantu which I found unforgettable. 
            There was a lone jetty there, old cemented paths, and trees swayed 
            in the gentle breeze. During low tide, there were numerous large, 
            flower-shaped soft corals that flopped over the rocky shore; large, 
            white ghost crabs that ran so fast which were difficult for a person 
            to run after, let alone catch them. And there are species of crabs 
            which only exist in Singapore, and nowhere else, which can still be 
            found on our Southern islands.
 
 It is to my pleasure that I could visit one of the southern islands 
            that I did not know still exists in Singapore, and one thought struck 
            me hard. I had wished that in the near future, this place would be 
            a place for all Singaporeans to admire wildlife that we so often see 
            in documentaries from other places. There are many things which Singaporeans 
            are proud about our country, perhaps a great biodiversity which we 
            can all enjoy is something which we can boast about in time to come.
 
 Hence, do we only want to say things like: We do not have to bother 
            keeping such flora and fauna since we can simply pop over to neighbouring 
            countries to see them. Or statements such as: we should be concerned 
            with gaining profits and places like these can be sacrificed. Because 
            they are too small and insignificant. Singapore is small too.
 RE: 
            A Casino in Singapore?
 Lai CF 15/04/2004 10:27:09PM
 
 Agreed that gambling is highly addictive. Agreed that gambling is 
            a major source of income for loan sharks. Agreed that desperate housewives 
            are selling their bodies to clear gambling debt. Agreed that casino 
            is a powerful lure to the young and the impressionables. Agreed that 
            their is a correlation between casino gambling and increase in social 
            problems. Agreed that Singapore will lose its "Squeaky clean" image. 
            But all these above problems are occurring and maybe on the rise due 
            to the existing "casino" in Singapore: - TOTO & 4-D Betting shops 
            in HDB estates - Kranji Turf Club - Private clubs jackpot machines, 
            Card and Mahjong Rooms.
 
 How can a casino can be any worse than the present situation where 
            they are ample opportunities to gamble "legally" in Singapore. Ever 
            heard of heartlanders losing their "family" over horses and virtually 
            all their monthly income spent on 4-D? Ever heard of housewives losing 
            all their monthly expenses in illegal casino and those casino-liners? 
            If we are so strongly against gambling, then please start by getting 
            all those Betting shops out of HDB estates. They are a "family breakers" 
            by encouraging heartlanders to spend a substantial amount of their 
            income trying to hit the "Big" one. Ever seen a $500 "Big" and $500 
            "Small" plonked by a heartlanders on a spur of moment? Ever visit 
            Cecil Street on Saturday afternoons? Basing on the same argument, 
            Kranji Turf CLub must be banned as it is a curse to families when 
            the sole bread-winners blow away their monthly salary and more in 
            one single afternoon. There is where "Ah Long" make his fortune as 
            well. WHy take half-measure to ban casino only, why not ban those 
            "existing casinos" as well as it is really a bane to happy family 
            life. For those ANTI-casino, there is no such thing as certain form 
            of gamblings are acceptable and only casino gambling is unacceptable. 
            You either ban all form of gambling or nothing. There is no such thing 
            as a half-virgin. By allowing pub, massage parlours, Geylang, Bugis 
            Street (Changi Village now), etc..Singapore had already lost its "squeaky 
            clean" image. But it was never there in the first place. SIngapore 
            is the original Sin City '50s.
 
 Agreed that Southern Islands will be "destroyed". But why moan now? 
            Destruction occurred 5 year ago when Pamela Lee (STB) unveiled the 
            Master Plan to merge all the Southern Islands into a "Capri". Isn't 
            a bit too late to cry over spilled milk when reclamation work started 
            long time ago.
 RE: 
            A Casino in Singapore?
 Rosalind Tan 16/04/2004 10:44:27AM
 
 I do not wish to go into the morality of gambling or its encouragement. 
            I just wish to point out that the proposal to build a casino will 
            harm the beauty of nature and its creatures irretrievably. As it is, 
            Singapore is pretty much an urban jungle and too many residents of 
            Singapore and visitors lament Singapore's lack of natural beauty. 
            That both residents and visitors enjoy and clamour for an opportunity 
            to go into nature for respite is patent from the number of visitors 
            to Ubin and the continuously fully booked tours for Chek Jawa? too 
            many people complained of their inability to get onto the Chek Jawa 
            tours despite attempting to book months ahead!
 
 What is sad about the proposal to build a casino in the Southern islands 
            is that we cannot redo what had been destroyed if it turns out to 
            be another Sentosa disaster? we cannot say "Oops we made a mistake" 
            and do a `U-turn' like we are now doing with Sentosa (I have lost 
            count of how many "refurbishment" and various concept changes we made 
            there making Sentosa more plastic and hideous with each "improvement"), 
            education policies, "Stop at Two" policies and similar `brilliantly' 
            ill-conceived ideas.
 
 The flora and fauna which form the biodiversity of the Southern Islands 
            and what little "untouched" parts of Singapore hang on a fragile balance, 
            should we help to wipe out even more species into extinction? Can't 
            we just leave them to thrive for future generations? Or must we always 
            be tempted to justify our `brilliance' by tinkering with beauty of 
            nature and creating colossal mausoleum which nobody wants in any case. 
            Should the beauty of nature be appreciated only by people who can 
            afford to visit foreign countries such as Great Barrier Reef, Rockies 
            etc while mere mortals whcih form the majority of Singaporeans drool 
            over videos (if they can afford it) of nature in foreign land? I hope 
            reason and respect for the environment and all its living creatures 
            will prevail.
 
 I also attach a feedback received from a friend who is currently out 
            of Singapore.
 
 To FEEDBACK UNIT
 
 I Can't Believe there are really plans to reclaim the Southern Islands 
            for a CASINO - it's bad enough they have been manicured nearly 2 decades...now 
            there'll totally RUIN it! A Casino brings lots of social problems 
            as well! - in Australia towns where they have Casinos they have to 
            bring in the SOCIAL WORKERS prior to starting Casinos, especially 
            where there is a large Asian-Chinese population (Joyce too much work 
            for you there!!!)
 
 This Project will DESECRATE any Nature Areas we have left on our Islands 
            COMPLETELY - It's Insanity!
 
 Why DOES a Casino (if Singapore is so desperate to have one - aren't 
            revenues from other socially destructive activities like alcohol & 
            ciggies not enough?) have to be built on a southern island anyway? 
            Why not have it atop the Mandarin, or Suntec City? Then those who 
            lose their pants can jump from the top!!!
 
 Any Nature loving, socially RESPONSIBLE person MUST Oppose this Madness
 
 Betty Lau (Betty L Khoo) email starfish@pulua.cx,
 RE: 
            A Casino in Singapore?
 No Sacred Cow 16/04/2004 11:13:25AM
 
 the benefits of casino far far outweights the purpose of preserving 
            eco-life. do you want hundred thousands of unemployed,collapse of 
            community services,collapse of charities,close down of Esplanade/Sport 
            facilities and collapse of community homes so as to preserve of eco-life 
            ?
 
 we are fully dependent on gambling revenues to provide the community 
            services,jobs and charities etc. no leader would sacrifice mankind 
            just to preserve non-mankind things such as eco-life or animals.
 
 if we have to cull chickens or cats to save mankind, our leaders will 
            do so as evidenced by episodes of sars and bird flu. similarly, eco-life 
            is no sacred cow if we need to provide good for our society. cull 
            eco-life to provide more good for our community.
 
 kudos to our govt for building a land of opportunities. casino on 
            Sentosa Cove will be the beginning of more good to come.
 RE: 
            A Casino in Singapore?
 Save Lives 16/04/2004 11:51:21AM
 
 "cull" eco-life and anti-casino to save millions of Singaporeans dependent 
            on revenues from casino. save casino to save lives of Singaporeans.
 RE: 
            A Casino in Singapore?
 KC_alpha 16/04/2004 10:19:18PM
 
 There're valid concerns rise by everyone here. What I want to reinforce 
            is that nothing is for certain. We must weigh pros & cons against 
            the objectives and make sure we mindfully execute to realise set objectives.
 
 I love nature too becos I learnt a lot from it, it's like my silent 
            teacher. Yet I know too little about its presence in Sentosa/ southern 
            islands to recommend much. I hope human beings can always aim to co-live 
            this world with nature, becos if we don't, it'll be too late if they 
            leave us or turn against us.
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